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1941 - 1st class survivor Mrs Malvina Helen Cornell died in New York, USA at the age of 84.

1972 - 2nd class survivor Miss Kate Buss died of heart failure / disease in Independence, Oregon, USA at the age of 96.

1892 - 3rd class passenger Mr Peter Andreas Lauritz Andersen S°holt was born.

1911 - 3rd class survivor Miss Helene Barbara Baclini was born to Solomon Baclini and Latifa Qurban Baclini.

1924 - 3rd class survivor Mr Neshan Krekorian married Persa Vartanian, who was not on the Titanic.

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2002: December/January

In this month's issue:

*Titanic TV Listings
*Double Stuff
*Titanic through History
*Scene of the Month: Attempting Suicide
*History with Kelly
*Site of the Month
*The Flub Report
*Game of the Issue: Quiz


*B2T News

Back to Titanic has undergone a complete redesign! During the past few months we have changed our site so it won't require frames and supports our newest feature: Skins! On any page, click the "change skin" link on the left and you can choose how you want Back to Titanic to look. During the redesign, we updated several sections: Making Waves, Film Info, Historical Info, Games, Websites, and Merchandise. Check our "What's New?" page for more information.

The Titanic Personal Icons in the Interaction section have URLs beneath each icon. This way, all you need to do is copy and paste the URL.

The Top 50 Websites list now includes green and red arrows to show whether a site is dropping down or climbing up the charts. Put your mouse over the arrow and see what rank that site was yesterday.

The Image Gallery has eight more scenes with DVD captures, VHS captures, and scans: "The Woman in the Picture" (Act I), "Ship of Dreams" (Act I), "Almost a Gentleman" (Act II), "Final Ascent" (Act III), "Never an Absolution" (Act III), "Jack Dawson's Luck" (Act I), "Departure" (Act I), and "Hiding the Truth" (Act I).

How obsessed are you? As you check the boxes next to each of our Obsession Signs, they add up to evaluate just how obsessed you are.

We added another Countdown/up! The newest one is for Kate Winslet's birthday, and it includes what age she'll be for her next birthday. Check out the other Countdowns/ups we have in the Websites section.

A note about Copal's Queue: Copal has decided not to continue with Copal's Queue indefinitely. Sorry to anyone looking forward to her next article on "Selections." Please direct any questions or comments to

*Titanic News

Winslet, Dench can't save "Iris":
LONDON (Variety) - A triumph on the casting side but less so dramatically, Richard Eyre's "Iris" fails to do full justice to its subject, the late British novelist Iris Murdoch (1919-99), as it shuttles back and forth between her bright-eyed youth and her final years defined by Alzheimer's.

Despite strong playing from Judi Dench and (especially) Kate Winslet as the older and younger versions of the scribe, plus sturdy support from both Jim Broadbent and Hugh Bonneville as her devoted husband John Bayley, the movie fails to build much of an emotional head of steam. It progressively skews more toward the older Iris' terminal decline than to a fully drawn study of Murdoch the writer and woman. Upscale female audiences look like its greenest pasture, with more general biz limited. Pic gets a brief Oscar-qualifying run Stateside starting Dec. 14 and opens in the U.K. mid-January. -- Derek Elley

'T3' programmed to kill at b.o. for Warners in 2003:
LOS ANGELES (The Hollywood Reporter) - On Monday, Warner Bros. Pictures wrapped up a domestic distribution deal for "Terminator 3," the third installment of the Arnold Schwarzenegger action franchise, ending a buyer frenzy that had attracted attention from nearly all of the major studios.

After having helmed the first two installments, James Cameron would have been an obvious choice for a third picture, but the relationship between Kassar and Vajna and Cameron was known to be tenuous when they began packaging the new project. When the duo announced in June that they had brought Schwarzenegger on for a third film, Cameron was not involved, and Schwarzenegger's efforts to woo him were unsuccessful. -- Chris Gardner

Kate Winslet was nominated for a Golden Globe in the "Best Supporting Actress in a Drama" category.

Celine Dion will return from retirement on March 5th when she releases an album of new material.

Gangs of New York Update:
Miramax has scheduled "Gangs of New York," a Martin Scorsese film starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz, for July 12.

Fisher Fire:
NORTH VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) - Clint Eastwood took his daughter home from a hospital after her narrow escape with Eastwood's ex-girlfriend from a Christmas-morning house fire on Tuesday.

Frances Fisher sustained severe burns to her hands, while her daughter with Eastwood, 8-year-old Francesca, clambered through her bedroom window to the garage roof and jumped into a neighbor's arms.


(All listings in EST)

*Leonardo DiCaprio on TV
The Beach
Thu Jan 3 09:00P HBOE3- HBO Signature
Mon Jan 7 02:25A HBOE3- HBO Signature
Sat Jan 12 09:45P HBOE- Home Box Office
Fri Jan 25 04:25A HBOE- Home Box Office
Tue Jan 29 11:00P HBOE3- HBO Signature

Hollywood & Crime: Innocence Lost
Wed Jan 16 06:00P COURT- Court TV
Thu Jan 17 06:00A COURT- Court TV

What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Tue Jan 8 08:00P FAME- The Family Channel
Wed Jan 9 01:00P FAME- The Family Channel

*James Cameron on TV
Sun Jan 27 11:30A FXE- The Fx Channel

The Terminator
Sun Jan 13 04:00P TBS- Turner Broadcasting System
Sun Jan 13 10:00P TBS- Turner Broadcasting System

*Billy Zane on TV
Dead Calm
Sat Jan 26 12:00A TBS- Turner Broadcasting System
Sat Jan 26 02:00P TBS- Turner Broadcasting System

Only You
Sat Jan 12 02:15A TNT- Turner Television

Tales From the Crypt: Well-Cooked Hams
Tue Jan 22 12:30A SCIFI- Science Fiction

This World, Then the Fireworks
Sun Jan 6 02:35A SDC- The Sundance Channel

*Victor Garber on TV
Sun Jan 6 09:00P ABC- ABC
Sun Jan 13 09:00P ABC- ABC
Sun Jan 20 09:00P ABC- ABC

Thu Jan 31 07:20A MAXE2- Cinemax # 2

Legally Blonde
Thu Jan 3 06:30P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Fri Jan 4 02:30A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Sun Jan 6 03:00A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Sun Jan 6 08:00A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Mon Jan 7 05:00A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Tue Jan 8 10:00A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Tue Jan 8 09:30P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Thu Jan 10 08:00P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Fri Jan 11 01:30A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Sat Jan 12 03:30P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Mon Jan 14 12:00P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Tue Jan 15 10:00A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Wed Jan 16 04:00A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Wed Jan 16 03:30P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Thu Jan 17 10:30P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Fri Jan 18 06:30P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Tue Jan 22 04:30P VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Wed Jan 23 10:00A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Thu Jan 24 06:30A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Thu Jan 24 11:30A VC1- Viewers Choice 1
Sat Jan 26 02:00P VC1- Viewers Choice 1

Life With Mikey
Sun Jan 13 11:00A MAXE- Cinemax
Fri Jan 25 09:00A MAXE- Cinemax

The View
Thu Jan 3 11:00A ABC- ABC

The Wandering Soul Murders
Mon Jan 7 03:00P LIFE- Lifetime


*Wallpaper by Jen

Quote: "Make it Count"

URL of this month's wallpaper:

Why Jen chose this quote: "I figure life's a gift and I don't intend on wasting it. You never know what hand you'll get dealt next. You learn to take life as it comes at make each day count," says Jack Dawson in the First Class Dinner. This is a powerful quote, and in my opinion, it plays a part in every day of our lives today since the events of September 11, 2001. You never do know what hand life will deal you, as we unfortunately discovered that terrible morning. After these events however, you see miraculous events unfolding as people live each day to the fullest, making each day count the most that they can. Strangers become friends, families become closer, citizens become heroes, and countries unite to fight evil. May we all make each day count and live life to the fullest.

Titanic moved twice her length, reaching to the tune of 12 knots before coming to a complete stop by six anchor chains and 2 piles of cable drag chains that weighed 80 tons each.

December / January

- Dec 8, 1952: Second Officer Charles Herbert Lightoller, the highest ranked survivor, died at 78
- Dec 12, 1901: Guglielmo Marconi sends first translatic radio signal; wireless communication between ships at sea becomes possible
- Dec 12, 1997: Titanic premiered in the US
- Dec 19, 1997: James Cameron's latest movie Titanic was released in US theatres
- Dec 21, 1996: The glass dome explosion was filmed and cost was $500,000. This was the last scene shot before the cast went on a 5 week break.
- Dec 23, 1915: First voyage of Britannic as hospital ship
- Dec 28, 1997: Titanic movie soundtrack entered the Billboard charts
- Jan 31, 2001: The last living male survivor, Michel Navratil, died at 92 in France. He was just 3 at the time of the 1912 sinking, and he and his 2-year-old brother became famous as "The Orphans of the Titanic" because their father, traveling under a false name, had died in the wreck and it took days to identify them.

SCENE OF THE MONTH: Attempting Suicide

*Scene facts
1. There was a scene removed that fell right before the suicide scene. In it, Rose flees to her room and begins to tear at herself while staring into the mirror. Rose tears off her necklace (that is why is "disappears" prior to the suicide scene), rips her hair out of its upsweep, and tosses her hand mirror into the wall (hence the crack).

2. Rose's hair changes shades throughout this scene, partially due to the lighting
but also due to the changes from stunt double to Winslet.

3. The closeups of Rose's feet during the scene is a Cameron trademark.

4. Jack's quote, "water that cold... it hits you like a thousand knives stabbing you all over your body," is actually a quote from Second Officer Lightoller.

5. The Lake Wissota Jack talks about falling into was a man-made lake that was not completed until after the Titanic sank.

6. It is often claimed that there is a tattoo visible on Rose's arm in the Jump Scene. It is actually a moon-shaped black dot - some embellishment that has come loose from her dress, clearly visible in closer shots.

7. Rose's torn dress is the first of three symbolic sheddings, to symbolize Rose shedding her constrictive upbringing. The second is her shoes (Steerage Party), and the third is her clothes (Drawing).

8. Kate Winslet was not hanging over the sea, but was hanging 12 feet off of the ground during this shoot. Kate Winslet did the majority of her stunts for this scene.

"Ever been to Wisconsin?" - Jack Dawson
"Stand back and don't move an inch! Fetch the Master at Arms." - Quartermaster Rowe
"Don't presume to tell me what I will and will not do. You don't know me." - Rose DeWitt Bukater
"I've got you. I won't let go." - Jack Dawson
"I felt like I was standing at a great precipice, with no one to pull me back, no one who cared... or even noticed." - Old Rose (voice over)





The RMS Olympic

Basic Information:

The Harland & Wolff firm under the White Star line to compete with the Lusitania and Mauritania built the RMS Olympic, which were built the Cunard Line. These two ships could hold a large number of passengers and could reach speeds up to 24 knots. Bruce Ismay decided to meet with a representative of Harland & Wolff, Lord Perrie, and they dreamt up the building of the Olympic, Titanic, and Britannic.

The Olympic was built slightly ahead of the Titanic in Belfast, Northern Ireland. The Olympic was about a 100 feet longer then the Cunard ships was faster, and could carry 3500 people. Plus, of course, she was like a floating hotel. The Olympic was 882.5 feet in length and 92.5 feet in width. The tops of the funnels were 75 feet above the boat deck, and the masts twice that. 3 propellers ran the Olympic, and the top speed she could hit was about 23 knots. The heat to run the propellers came from 29, 3 story, boilers. The engines were 4 stories in height. The Olympic also had 3 running funnels, and a fourth one for show.

On December 16, 1908 the Olympic's keel was placed in the yard of Harland & Wolff, 3 months later the Titanic's keel was placed in the berth next to it. It took 2 years to build the Olympic, and although the Titanic ended up being bigger, the Olympic was the pride of the times at this moment; all eyes were on it and it alone. The only difference between the Olympic and the Titanic was that the Titanic was a bit bigger and that the promenade on the A-deck was all open on the Olympic, while the Titanic only had half of it open.

Some other reasons why the Olympic was an amazing feat was because it had 4 elevators, 3 in first; 1 in second, the 2nd - class dining saloon was more luxurious then most ships, second-class had a lounge, first and second had a barber shop, and then there were the squash courts, Turkish baths, the Verandah Cafe, the A la Carte Restaurant, and the swimming pool. The most luxurious thing on the ship, though, was the first-class stairway. The other point of interest about the Olympic was that 3rd-class was nicer then on any other ship. It also had a smoking room and a general room.

The Life:

The Olympic's maiden voyage was on June 14, 1911, when she left Great Britain. The Olympic was under the command of veteran, Captain Edward John Smith, who would also be the Captain of the Titanic. On this voyage they only carried 1 313 people out of a possible 2700, they didn't want to fill her on her first voyage. These 1 313 people included some of the world's most famous and rich people, and J. Bruce Ismay who spent the voyage wandering around and seeing what changes needed to be made when they built the Titanic.

The Olympic had a successful maiden voyage; disaster didn't strike for her until her 5th voyage when she was on her way to Cherbourg to pick up her next load of passengers. Suddenly, the British Royal Navy's ship the HMS Hawke was seen coming out of the fog and was sucked into the Olympic by her giant propellers. The Hawke ended up ramming the Olympic's starboard side, causing the Hawke to almost capsize. The end result was the Olympic had a bad gash in her side and a broken propeller, while the Hawke had a badly damaged bow. Thankfully no one was injured.

After the sinking of the Titanic, people started to dislike the Olympic-size boats, even after new lifeboats were added. This added some security, but then the crew abandoned the Olympic. White Star quickly replaced them, but then the passengers didn't like them because they were inexperienced. White Star saw that there was no other solution then to add even more safety features to the Olympic, so they took her out of commission for 6 months. They extended bulkheads, giving the ship an extra skin and increasing her width by 2 feet. This meant that she could now stay a float with 6 watertight compartments filled, while the Titanic could only stay afloat with 4. The Olympic also ended up having 68 lifeboats. Some of the popular features on the Titanic were also added to the Olympic while she was out of service. She came back into commission in 1913.

The Olympic got pulled out of commission again because of the "Great War." She was out of service for 10 months. This was ended because she was needed by the government to act as a naval transport. She went back into service in September of 1915. After the war, she went back to serving the White Star Line. She was still considered one of the most luxurious ships around. March 1935 was the last voyage of the Olympic before being sold and stripped. She was completely scrapped in 1937. Out of the Olympic, Titanic, and Britannic, the Olympic was the only one taken out of commission because of old age. The other two sank.


I would like to congratulate Laura from Laura's Titanic Cafe, who is the proud recipient of an award plaque distinguishing her site as B2T's Site of the Month for Dec 2001/ Jan 2002. Her site and her graphics are absolutely gorgeous, and both are well worth a visit. Here is what Laura had to say:

Jen: What made you become interested in Titanic?

Laura: I've always had an interest in history. But when I saw the movie it captivated me. It just brought the whole era to life, from everything to etiquette to costumes.

Jen: How long has your site been in existence?

Laura: Well, I've had a Titanic site on the web for about 3 years now (A Promise Kept). I've had "Laura's Titanic Cafe" up for about 7 or 8 months now.

Jen: In your opinion, what is the best feature on your site?

Laura: I like my graphics, and all my cliques. The "Did She Die" section is really a neat idea as well. There is always that big controversy of if she died in the end...I just thought it would be kind of cool to get an idea of what different people think.

Jen: What advice would you like to give to other webmasters out there?

Laura: Don't give up! I know I did several times. I remember looking at M0LLY's, Corey's, and Rainbowbright's sites in total awe. I started making my own graphics, and playing around with HTML editors. And I made alot of mistakes at first...but if you practice you will be surprised how fast you pick things up.

Visit Laura's Titanic Cafe -

Become the Site of the Month!

THE FLUB REPORT: High and Low Heels
by Copal

In learning more about the making of Titanic, I've come upon scads of claims that there are flubs throughout. Since I know have the DVD, and therefore the capability to watch the movie frame-by-frame, I used the list I had accumulated and looked for myself. My motivation in writing the Flub Report is my growing fascination with film making and the creating of the illusion that seems so flawless on screen. With so much money at their disposal, and under James Cameron's perfectionistic eye, many flubs remained in the final cut. Of course there are the commonly known ones, like the glob of spit on Jack's chin that isn't there from one angle, but appears in the next shot. We won't be delving into those, just the ones that are new discoveries I hadn't heard terribly much about. I'll also be debunking some so-called flubs that turned out not to be true flubs and pointing out things that weren't necessarily mistakes but that you may not have caught. Along the way, I will share pictures, showing what I'm describing so you can see comparisons and understand the context.

For our first installment, I want to address these claims regarding Rose's shoes:
"During Jack and Rose's trip on the deck to the bow right before the sinking, she is wearing flat shoes. In the water, laying on the furniture (as Jack hangs on) she is wearing high heels."

"Young Rose's shoes are clearly off in one wide shot as she stands on the railing of the ship. As they cut to her before she turns around, when you can see her entire body, you can clearly see in two shots her toes outlined by black nylons clutching the rail, and NOT her heels as seen previously in other shots before and afterward when she slips on her gown going back over the rail to safety."

As Rose climbs over a railing and then jumps down to the well deck, she throws her legs over the railing. This is most clearly seen in Exhibit A:

We know that Rose has been wearing the same heels (unbelievably) through running through the boiler room, rescuing Jack, running down that flooding hallway, and all the way through to boarding the Carpathia. When she is floating on the debris, you can most clearly see this as in Exhibit B:

This first claim is decidedly true.

Rose's attempt at suicide places her perilously over the stern railing. Was Kate Winslet in stocking feet as she stood on the set (which really had her only 12 feet off the ground)? Would they have traded out her slippery shoes during the scene so she wouldn't fall? Even after going through the scene frame-by-frame, I can't decide. This one I will leave up to you. Notice in Exhibit C how her feet appear darker than her bright red shoes from Exhibit D:

Exhibit C:

Exhibit D:

Exhibit C is split into the original lighting conditions from the movie, on the left, and my adjusting the lighting via computer to try and reveal more detail, on the right. Of course Exhibit D has her shoes in more light, so perhaps Exhibit C shows the same shoes in less light. The claim says these are her stocking feet because there is an outline of her toes, but those could very well be the ledge obscuring parts of the shoes.
For this claim, I am undecided.


1. As she unpacked her paintings, what did Rose say the room needed?
A. a little color
B. more flowers
C. bigger paintings
D. brighter light
2. What was the name of the CNN reporter who interviewed Brock?
A. Pamela
B. Brenda
C. Tracy
D. Susan
3. Who does Jack greet on his way to the church service?
A. Captain E.J. Smith
B. Molly Brown
C. Thomas Andrews
D. Spicer Lovejoy
4. How much was the going rate for saving the woman Cal loved?
A. 27 English pounds
B. 20 US dollars
C. 8 francs
D. 70 US dollars

The answers to this quiz will appear in the next issue.

Answers to last issue's game:
1. for those in peril on the sea
2. see you at dinner, Jack
3. masters of the universe
4. wasn't I a dish?

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